[Julien's not going to argue, but coming in 'fighting and killing' would have been probably the worst possible response in that situation, even worse than ducking in to see. He just nods, tired.]

I saw. [That they were involved doesn't feel like it's as much his fault as the first few people. He's not clear on everything that went down, of course, and if he was he wouldn't feel that Rita's capture had much to do with him at all. Still there'd been a snowball effect and he'd been up there near the start.] And I'm sorry for that, too. I'm just glad they didn't have to be in the underbelly.

[There's that. Only Julien experienced that one particular chain of horror - the underbelly and all that went with it, servitude, transformation, death. Sans had it worse, but this was still bad. All the kids who were involved only experienced one of the two worst parts.]

Not since the ball. He was pretty pissed - and yeah, that's a legit reaction. I haven't seen him around since, but I haven't been looking. [Julien's barely ever talked to Sans. In Portland, briefly in the underbelly, during the ball. He doesn't know how the Warden works at all.]