atouts: (037; three of pentacles)
john childermass ([personal profile] atouts) wrote in [community profile] limacharlie2018-05-06 12:28 pm

public channel; day 52

"With the power of the Silver Mirror, the Nephalem Lilith was able to create a realm according to their desires - a realm where the Beasts could devise the Soul that would lead them, and build a perfect world. While the rest of the multiverse spiraled into Chaos, Lilith aspired towards Perfection."

[ It had taken a bit to scour the book for any other bit of information once he'd gotten it back from one of the stupidest book specters he had to misfortune of running into but now that he has, here he is, reading the first bit over the radio.

Following that, he adds, asking,
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Has anyone else found something regarding a mirror? I believe this may be one of the miracles but confirmation would be nice to have.

[ ooc, feel free to threadjack as needed ]
anti_nonsense: (read a motherfuckin' book)

[personal profile] anti_nonsense 2018-05-06 05:54 pm (UTC)(link)
The Silver Mirror... wait, one of the books I grabbed has that title! Give me a minute...

[There's already the sound of pages shuffling and covers thudding against the floor as Rita digs it out of what's apparently a sizable pile of books she's accumulated for reading. She turns the radio off for a few minutes to look through it, but returns to it before long.]

Here it is. "The Court of Sun and the Court of Shade worked in harmony and their influence planted the seeds from which the first worlds grew..."

[That's their clue. But since the rest of the passage is long and flowery, Rita opts to summarize it.]

... It says the Mirror can bend the light in the hearts of those who look into it... cleansing them of darkness, or corrupting them... The races of angels and demons tried to claim it, but it looks like this 'Lilith' got to it first.
anti_nonsense: (Shut up. I'm thinking.)

[personal profile] anti_nonsense 2018-05-06 07:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Eden...

--Wait, what do you mean by that? You've heard it described before?
prazerbutterfly: (fiesty arencha)

[personal profile] prazerbutterfly 2018-05-06 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
God's Eden. [He breathes out in a mock before barking laughter ensues. How he would love to wreck such an unnatural place.]

But that is interesting given the book only mentions the Beasts when often Eden is the very essence of man's eventual folly.
prazerbutterfly: (trust me)

[personal profile] prazerbutterfly 2018-05-06 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
[Without Mankind, or in his preference Humans, this place surely had to be paradise.]

Interesting. That is far different than the version of Eden I know, one created for Mankind. Sounds like it would be trouble for any of Mankind to step in there.

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anti_nonsense: (come on let's hear it)

[personal profile] anti_nonsense 2018-05-06 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
[The first man and woman...? What's with all these texts and their references to the origins of life?]

Where did you hear about all that?

[Evidently, Rita knows basically nothing about the religions of Earth.]
anti_nonsense: (Blah blah blah.)

[personal profile] anti_nonsense 2018-05-06 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Religion, huh... [There's a dryness in her tone, like she finds the concept somewhat distasteful. Still, this wouldn't be the first time she noticed some sliver of truth reflected in religious tales.]

What else did your stories say about Eden? Even if it's not applicable, there may be more parallels than what we can see now.

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lordofthering: (windowmaker)

[personal profile] lordofthering 2018-05-06 06:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, well. It's been a long time since anyone called the Courts by those names.
anti_nonsense: (WAIT A MINUTE)

[personal profile] anti_nonsense 2018-05-06 07:10 pm (UTC)(link)
So it's not just a metaphor... Those used to be the names of the Summer and Winter courts?
lordofthering: (smoothtalker)

[personal profile] lordofthering 2018-05-06 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
They did! Back before the war started.

If you can still call it a war when its been happening for nearly as long as the multiverse has existed.
anti_nonsense: (I REALLY wonder about you.)

[personal profile] anti_nonsense 2018-05-06 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
That long!? [Rita knew it would be a long time by a mortal's perspective, but that amount of time isn't even fathomable.] I guess calling it an "eternal war" wasn't much of an exaggeration...

--Right, there's something I wanted to ask. Do you know anything about this 'Lilith'?
lordofthering: (fortuneseeker)

[personal profile] lordofthering 2018-05-07 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Well... I know of several Lilith, which is the problem.

Some names and concepts get a lot of repetition, between worlds, and Lilith is one of them. I've seen renditions of that idea in a lot of places - even Mari's world had a Lilith in it! In that world, she was the creator of humanity, I think.

Now that I think about it, I don't believe I've ever met the original. Which, if we're looking at things that far back... it'd have to be.
anti_nonsense: (Shut up. I'm thinking.)

[personal profile] anti_nonsense 2018-05-07 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
You mean how certain concepts are reflected throughout the multiverse, and in some ways distorted... [Yep, Rita's been doing her homework.]

So what kind of information would you need to locate the realm of someone you've never met?
lordofthering: (windowmaker)

[personal profile] lordofthering 2018-05-07 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
If it is the original, that makes it easy... but also more difficult. They would have to be the version of Lilith that started it all, that functions on the same level as the Faerie Courts and the Highest Heaven and Deepest Hells.

That also means they'd be the most powerful of their kind. Which means they could be pretty good at hiding if they wanted to be.

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chronosynthesis: (❖ The Pledge)

[personal profile] chronosynthesis 2018-05-06 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Did they name every miracle after their courts, or was this one special?

[A pause.] Why did they change the titles of their courts in the first place?
lordofthering: (smoothtalker)

[personal profile] lordofthering 2018-05-06 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I believe the name change was a passive aggressive gesture following the beginning of the conflict between the Courts, based on the idea that Sun and Shadow were seen as two parts of the same whole, whereas Summer and Winter were seen as oppositional states.

The Miracles are only named after the Courts in that they are based on the same elements that both Courts represent.

That is, if the Silver Mirror is real.
chronosynthesis: (❖ 13)

[personal profile] chronosynthesis 2018-05-06 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
An idea not unlike the Nightmare Court, then... [He muses to himself, although they were a secondary spawn. Actually...]

The Blue Rose was real. [So he's not goingto doubt the rest of them! He's sure the Ringmaster doesn't really, either, if she's vested in finding them.]

Were the Fae not one one people, undivided by Courts and alliances?
lordofthering: (fortuneseeker)

[personal profile] lordofthering 2018-05-06 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
The Courts have always existed, because they are the byproduct of the Queens that started it all. In the very beginning, there was the Queen of Sun and the Queen of Shadow, and things developed from there. Each Queen began to create more of their kind, in their own image.

So, that means they shared their Queen's elemental affinities. Meanwhile, the Wyld Fae were born of the chaotic energies left behind by those creations. Or so they say.

That's why we were called the Wyld Fae, as we were unbeholden to the Courts, and could have elements of either. We also didn't tend to look like the Fae of the Courts, for obvious reasons.
chronosynthesis: (❖ The Pledge)

[personal profile] chronosynthesis 2018-05-07 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
[Syrlya hums. He's a little curious why they still considered themselves so different as to create their people separately, but that's an origin probably still too far back for any certainty.]

They were the ones to create the miracles, correct? Were they also the ones to instigate the fight between their Courts?
lordofthering: (smoothtalker)

[personal profile] lordofthering 2018-05-07 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, they were, and... more or less, they did start the fight. Or rather, their mutual jealousy did.

The Summer Maiden told me that the first Summer Queen may have initiated it all. When the Court of Sun developed their propensity towards Life and Growth, and the Court of Shade developed theirs towards Death and Decay, the Sun Queen decided it was only fitting that, as the Court of Life, all of life was theirs to rule over.

The Court of Shade didn't like that.

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